Question:
"The Great Global Warning Swindle" channel 4.?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
"The Great Global Warning Swindle" channel 4.?
109 answers:
Jack
2007-03-08 15:09:43 UTC
I have just seen the same program and it came as a breath of fresh air. I agree with your comments thus far but you have missed out some very key points:



1) Between 1940 - 1975 the industrial revolution was in full swing pumping out far more CO2 than now. Yet the temperature was steadily falling. So much so that people where predicting the next ice age.



2) Historically the increase in CO2 has been a direct result of an increase in global temperature with a lag of hundreds of years. Not a cause.



3) The deep ice core studies show the polar regions have been a lot warmer than they are now.



4) While I think based on the evidence presented the link between CO2 and global warming has been disproved. A direct link based on hundreds of years worth of data has been clearly demonstrated between temperature changes and solar activate.



This is clear indisputable scientific evidence instead of the mass hysteria we have had from the left. The evidence is out there in the public domain. But many scientists are to scared to speak publicly and most people are just to dumb to look.



Many of the scinests featured are were actually employed by the IPCCC as well as leading academic institutions such as M.I.T, Cambridge University, etc Even the co-founder of Greenpeace stands up for this view.
nurgle69
2007-03-08 14:36:13 UTC
I did not watch the program however the earth climate has alwaysed changed thats why we have had 4 ice ages the problem is the speed at which global warming is happening and the amount it is by
mick t
2007-03-08 23:22:10 UTC
I am an ecologist working working in environmental biology for many years. As such, I continually meet with other people in my field, and related ones. I have been to Antarctica and the Arctic meeting with scientists from the Arctic research institute.

This programme mirrors, almost word for word, the things we say privately amongst ourselves, reluctant to go public because of threats to our jobs, withdrawal of research funding, censorship of research papers, even threats of violence.

Margaret Becket, the leader of the House of Commons, said that the 'human activity cause of global warming' sceptics should be denied access to the media, so I applaud Channel 4 for broadcasting this programme.

Stalin tried to suppress genetics in 1920's Soviet union because he felt it was not consistent with Marxist dogma( look up about Vavilov) and set back Soviet agriculture 50 years.

In the middle ages, the Catholic church tried to suppress to idea that the Earth went around the Sun because they thought it was not consistent with Christian doctrine and this forced many of the leading scientists to move to Protestant northern Europe.

'The human activity cause' is not science, it is political ideology, and as such, the activists use all the usual propaganda and intimidation techniques to suppress discussion and opposition.



The history of the planet teaches us that environments change, species adapt or die out. The idea that humans have the theoretical knowledge or technical ability to put a stop to climate change is simply arrogant nonsense



I HAVE NO CONNECTION OF ANY KIND WITH ANY BRANCH OF THE ENERGY INDUSTRY
2007-03-08 22:44:58 UTC
nobody said that man is entirely to blame

but people are responsible for a lot



Is global warming a man-made menace?



not all there are natural cycles in the planets life

but a lot is influenced by mans existance ,and this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations as well as destructions of essential componants the ensure living conditions for all life forms



some home truths



politicians and scientists who work for politicians have downplayed the facts because solutions are expensive and means change and change effects many people income,and most of the world is kept in the dark of the real things that are going on.





in North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss and desertification





in recent times thousands of people have died because of exessive heat,usually old people.in India ,Mexico and France,

deforestation causing desertification,the desert conditions causing very cold nights and scorching hot days



in china, thousands of what used to be farmers are running for their lives from the dust storms that have burried their towns and turned their lands into dessert,the globe where they were got to hot for them .

and instead of producing food they are now needing it from some where else,and they will drastically effect the world food prices when they start buying water in the form of grains ,at any cost destabalising governments, in some countries ,could be the result

(are you seeing more Chinese around interested in agricultural lands ,we do here in Mexico)



,the Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year

and all of the desserts we know are a results of mans actions ,and they are increasing ,not getting less ,in the dinosaurs days ,there were no desserts.



collectively this planet is drying up because of bad farming practices like,over grazing and fertilizers,



as far as the food production is concerned, Global warming or some of its effects are serious,rising seas result in landloss



each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss



more landloss because of desertification every year,we have less areble land to produce food ,for an extra 70 million people ,



and there is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate this production ,

and there are less and less farmers to do it..

who are overpumping deep carbon aquifiers

who are plowing more and more unstable lands because they have lost so many million hectares to desertification ,

because of bad farming practises ,such as using fertilizers and heavy machinary or over grazing



RISING SEAS

The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.

this does not affect the sea level because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,are another matter.



Global warming is in theory reversable,but it will mean global co operation between all countries ,and taking into account human nature and the world politics ,it is unlikely that this will happen,



At least not untill we are all in the middle of planetary disastres and it becomes a battle for the survival of humanity every where.



SOLUTIONS

if you want to help the planet ,plant a tree every week ,if everyone on the planet did we we would be able to reverse the destructive processes



reduce carbon emisions,and they are already working on that by alternative forms of energy and regulations on carbon producing materials,aerosol cans,burning rubbish,industrial chimneys,powerplants etc.



the capture of carbon and the production of water and assist the aquiferous manta.



the world bank pays large subsidies for reforrestation to capture carbon and the best tree for this is the Pawlonia



Waterharvesting projects ,such as millions of small dams.to redirect over ground waterflows from the rains into the ground to supply subteranian water supplies.



the protection of existing forrests.



stop building more highways,urban planning to include vegetation stop building cities encourage people to return to the land to conduct their business from there which now has become possible thanks to the internet.



education to motivate people to auto sufficiency by building more home food gardens.



education on environmental awareness

education on family planning to curb over´populaion



Agricultural education and improvements to follow the principals or sustainability and soil management.



more environmental or land ,design to prevent bush fires,such as--fire breaks



,more dams.regulations and control for public behaviour



alternative effeciant public transport to discourage the use of the internal conbustion engine



recicling wastes,limit water use



i am a Permaculture Consultant for the department of Ecology for the regional government in Guerrero Mexico

http://spaces.msn.com/byderule



Source(s) Lester E Brown is the director and founder of the global institute of Environment in the United states .he has compiled a report based on all the satalite information available from NASA,and all the information that has

come from Universities and American embassies WORLD WIDE ,

his little book--a planet under stress , Plan B has been trans lated into 50 languages and won the best book award in 2003.
2007-03-08 14:33:06 UTC
Of course they are. Are you actually surprised that the government is lying to you and taxing you for no good reason?
2007-03-08 14:20:10 UTC
I certainly do - the opportunity is there and they are certainly going to take advantage of it
2007-03-08 23:44:18 UTC
the program is accurate in its findings it just forgot to tell the real reason that the amount humans add has increased a lot and has upset the balance of the planet
viking_raider_2005
2007-03-08 18:15:26 UTC
I remember when I was a kid - we were told the the average global temperature had been going down steadily for 30 years and eminent scientists were warning us that we were heading for an ice age........(this was reported with glee by the media in the same way that global warming is being reported now)



As this program pointed out, that was during the biggest industrial boom the world has ever seen - since then we've had 30 years of rising temperatures. Personally I've always had my doubts about the whole "global warming" issue - but it was nice to have it confirmed.



However - I still feel that we should be using our resources wisely. Especially in the UK where we are a net energy importer. Additionally, fossil fuels are a finite resource, I would still like to be able to drive in 20 years time.



Another thing to look at is pollution - OK, even if CO2 isn't a problem - smog and acid rain are - so let's have efficient transport and recycle what we can anyway.
Spanner
2007-03-08 15:32:26 UTC
Of couse it`s a swindle, it has been since day one. The bit that was missing in the programme was the poetic justice that nature meted out to the water companies, global warming, drought, all our fault, have to have water meters, it`s hardly stopped raining since last summer. I am pleased that a tv programme has now told the truth, perhaps they should put it on youtube to give those who missed it a chance to see it
Dollytot :-)
2007-03-08 15:05:09 UTC
Now i am really confused!

It defiantly throws a spanner in the works for sure!
2007-03-08 14:31:13 UTC
Yes, I do. The awesome cost of the armed forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, plus the spiralling cost of the DSS system (which has no budget and is now out of control) requires that the government raise new taxes somewhere.



Despite the money that would be raised, the roads would remain gridlocked and there would be no improvement whatsoever in either the rail or bus networks. Indeed, the bus networks would be tested to collapse, swamped by all those people who could no longer afford to travel distances by car and who would be forced to travel by bus.



But once a new tax is introduced, it will NEVER be repealed. The Congestion Charge in London - introduced at £5 a day - was very quickly increased by FORTY per cent to £8.



Exactly the same will happen to the Road Toll. Strangely, we are asked to believe that inflation is under 3%!!! Every increase on ANYTHING is always more than 3%. House prices have increased 200% in 10 years. The poll tax has rocketed. Petrol has gone up and up. Gas has gone through the roof. Interest rates have increased peoples mortgage payments dramatically - but inflation is still 3%.



No, the government is lying as usual. We all pretend that it's not, but it is. Global warming is just another opportunity to raise revenue.
2007-03-08 18:03:51 UTC
Well I missed the programme unfortunately I hope its repeated at some time for me to watch it,anyone know??

Anyway this is a topic that I have believed true for some time. I have seen several programme's on the global warming theory in the past and from memory I recall most of them stating there has been many shifts in the earths climate in the past.

Anyone heard of METHANE HYDRATE its a substance found on the seabed all over the world,it consits of the remains of dead sea creatures which have settled on the seabed decaying and slowly built up vast quantities of methane gas sealed in ice and if disturbed by earthquake or a change in ocean current,it relaeses the gas in huge amounts. Its this gas which is allegedly the cause of so many ship and aircraft disapearences in the Burmuda Triangle,as the ships float over the gas bubbles they loose bouyancy and sink and the aircraft ignite the gas as they fly through it because of the engine exhaust.Its only been discovered in the last 25 years or so and has been there for eons so what does the goverment think caused all the other climate changes in the past.

I firmly belive the goverment is lining its purse with these taxes. Why don't they limit the engine size for cars,why do people need a 3,4, 5 litre which do 19 or so miles to a gallon just to do the shopping or pick the kids up from school,surely a limit on engine capacity would be a big help. This goverment is not shy on telling us what to do you can't smoke a cigarette out in the open air now if your on council on NHS property and so on,so why don't they make people prove they have a need for a big engine (for work/buisness etc) and all others have a less of a gas guzzler and higher emisions. Why does it have to be a TAX!!
Valac Gypsy
2007-03-10 20:44:57 UTC
I cannot recall when I have been so "stunned" by the incredible ignorance shown in most of these copious answers. I won't tax (no pun intended) your minds further with valid, scientific proof. There are some good links on here, but a mind convinced against its will is of the same opinion still. My points will be in a rather different direction. The anti-global warming paranoia blames scientists, (bloody money hungry for research); "Leftist" politicians; conspiracy to swindle us out of money; cow gas, & oh--really over the top! Was it fast forwarding the melting icebergs? I suppose the photo of NO SNOW on Mt. Kilimanjaro was faked, too? & channel 4 is considered a credible source for the truth? You guys have to be on another planet. Ooops. No. That would be VERY bad fo the planet. Of course this planet has gone through climate changes! But not at the rate it is now. & actually, I thought it was the other way around--global warming is DENIED for love of the oil industries, (one of the reasons), & what was the primary motivation for INVADING Iraqi? I doubt anyone knows that contractors were hired BEFORE the invasion, to "rebuild" Iraq. What fools mortals be! AND. There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see. Now you can have fun giving me 15 thumbs down, which doesn't mean a tiddly to me. Only confirms that 98% of people are brain dead newts.
John B
2007-03-08 22:40:13 UTC
Good subject:

I'm reading the question and answering from overseas and so I did not see the C4 programme but there will always be those amongst the human race and disbelievers whichever side of the fence you sit on and it seems that the C4 programme really did just that in a big way.

It is, and has been for a long time, known that animals create waste which can damage the atmosphere but in turn some of their waste actually helps. So lets get some balance in here. The impact of the sun and the clouds (which are water vapour) is greatly increased because our planets own protection system has been damaged by polution, the majority of which is man made not 'animal'. Just a simple act of cutting a tree down to make wooden floors in your house impacts Global Warming. The tree is no longer there to filter CO2, the burning of the 'stump' sends polution out and the factory process used to make the floor boards requires energy to make them which in turn adds to the polution, then the truck to get the flooring to you makes polution, a vicious circle.

Its simple maths, geography, physics which tells us that if the earths protection is taken away then the sun will melt the ice caps, which in turn raises sea levels, which flood low counties and kills thousands, plus the sun heats up more water to turn to vapour (clouds etc) which drop the vapour on you and me in the form of rain which creates flooding.

So by protecting our planet we get to enjoy a better life and live longer. Take a look at www.climatecrisis.net and refer to 'An Inconvenient Truth', that will change your mind again.

As for taxes, well I dont live in the UK but pollution is caused by us all, if it takes some extra taxes to stop the deterioration then I think we should all do our bit.
char1ie_brown_74
2007-03-09 15:02:47 UTC
It goes far deeper than that!! Without going down the whole 'conspiracy route' those scientists who support the 'CO2 theory' are there to throw confusion and conflict into the 'debate', to muddy the waters and prevent any clear presentation of the facts. This is done by finding 'scientists' who are willing to put the argument that suits the agenda and, although it may have no validity, it dilutes the clarity there would otherwise be. As with any 'scientific study, look who benefits from the results. WHO BENEFITS??



I agree with some other posters here that there are an awful lot of ignorant people out there please investigate these issues for yourselves, those morons who think this is a conspicicy I challenge you to investigate further, you WILL be shocked at what you find.



This is the problem with the modern age that we live in, so many distractions in life we never have time to see what is staring us in the face.
2007-03-08 23:24:28 UTC
No telly here, however I have not in all my years at sea noticed any real change to the global weather.



As most governments are bankrupt, ours in particular due to having to pay billions to Brussels, Brown needs to find the extra money to pay his inflated salary. So all you Greene's who would cover our country with these windmills, take a note of where these machines come from and than not which are the most vocal countries in the green debate, no prises fro noting that it is Germany and Sweden both of which are major producers of the machines that are now being installed roughshod over our countryside.



I wouldn't mind if the free energy that was produced was sold at a lower price, but green energy carries a premium another lie. What I am waiting for is a sudden lowering of overall global temperatures and of course the taxes that will be increased to stop Global Cooling.
Psichore
2007-03-08 17:09:36 UTC
I've known all this for years and it was even covered in the Penn & Teller TV show in America called 'Bullsh*t', where each programme looked at cons, scams and misinformation that is believed and taken as truth by the media and public.

Patrick Moore was on there too (co-founder of Greenpeace - which incidentally is not an environmental movement but a political one now), and he said the same things back then.

This entire CO2 Global Warming fiasco has been and continues to be one giant con, perpetrated by governments for the purposes of tax and big business by making sure third world countries don't use their oil and coal until they can get to it.

The fact so many 'ecologists' and protesters stand up for this blatant crap without one real shred of decent, justifiable evidence has annoyed me for years.

Technological and industrial progress in the last 100 years has seen the biggest and fastest increase in the standards of living, travel, healthcare, and food production (which by the way INCLUDES genetically altered foods! Another subject 'environmentalists' like to attack with no real evidence) the world has ever seen. These benefits should be felt by ALL countries and peoples, instead of making them feel guilty and contine to suffer under this blatant falsification of facts.
Indukanth
2016-03-05 10:12:03 UTC
Anyone heard of METHANE HYDRATE its a substance found on the seabed all over the world,it consits of the remains of dead sea creatures which have settled on the seabed decaying and slowly built up vast quantities of methane gas sealed in ice and if disturbed by earthquake or a change in ocean current,it relaeses the gas in huge amounts. Its this gas which is allegedly the cause of so many ship and aircraft disapearences in the Burmuda Triangle,as the ships float over the gas bubbles they loose bouyancy and sink and the aircraft ignite the gas as they fly through it because of the engine exhaust.Its only been discovered in the last 25 years or so and has been there for eons so what does the goverment think caused all the other climate changes in the past.
2007-03-09 02:32:38 UTC
I think it's always nice to believe that we are not responsible for something! It is even nicer to believe that we can carry on forever throwing tons of noxious gases into the atmosphere, with-out ANY consequence. It may be the case that this has all been over-played a little, it may be that the natural environment is as much responsible. But it certainly is NOT the case that we are blame free.



We should not try and convince ourselves (or the less inteligent with-in our society, that get easily confused) that we carry NO responsibility for the ONLY enviroment that we have.



How CAN it be right to continue riding massive jets, pouring tons of crap into the upper atmosphere, like you are the only one doing it; when you can stand (more or less) anywhere in the world, look up and see hundreds of the bloody things criss-crossing the sky. How can it be right to have fifteen layers of packaging on items sourced (and then transported) from the other side of the world, when they could be got loose (with-out any packing) from the bloke up the road!



Point is there are so many things that we do that are not only pointless (to all but those at the top of the **** heap making all the money out of them), that ARE having an overall detremental effect on our lives, our health and this beautiful planet (and all that we share it with).



I don't condone 'scare-mongering' and fully accept that the picture has been painted really black. But this is because it needs to be if stupid people are to wake up and realise what they are doing!



Modern life breeds selfish, consumer driven morons that cannot see the impact of their actions until it is too late; they'll end up with all the MONEY they could ever want, living with deah and misery all around them!



Taxes are used in all area (eg: smoking) to try and help promote the right lifestyle choices for the people who either don't understand or don't care about their (and everyone elses) future.



Thing is, all the MONEY in the world will not bring this planet back from the dead when we have used up every resource that we have in the pursuit of money!
2014-10-03 14:24:27 UTC
y quickly increased by FORTY per cent to £8.



Exactly the same will happen to the Road Toll. Strangely, we are asked to believe that inflation is under 3%!!! Every increase on ANYTHING is always more than 3%. House prices have increased 200% in 10 years. The poll tax has rocketed. Petrol has gone up and up. Gas has gone through the roof. Interest rates have increased peoples mortgage payments dramatically - but inflation
dreading_life
2007-03-09 02:51:09 UTC
There are a lot of varying answers here and I can only add the following:

- Global warming is a natural phenomenon. We are less than 10000 years out of the last Ice Age and the very same "Scientists" have shown that temperatures before this were higher than now.

- Government tax anything they feel they can turn a profit on. We should revolt against the improper use of these taxes. I pay Road Tax for a medium, fuel efficient car and drive on roads that are worse than some of the third world countries I work in (That is unless a politician lives in the area!!)
mr_carburettor
2007-03-09 09:55:34 UTC
I watched this programme attentively last night. It was a real eye-opening piece of television that tore apart the CO2 agenda in an hour-and-a-half of Channel 4, or at least placed serious doubt over it.



Now that the other side of the story has, for the first time, has been presented on terrestrial TV, there's no way you can simply take the media's word for it any longer. and I've had my doubts on man-made global warming for some time now.



I can relate to the arguement raised with regards to the lack of science in the related news reports, with the likes of the BBC and ITV News instead concentrating on emotive images of polar bears followed by images of power stations and congested motorways.



Their demolition of the man-made theory was convincing. For example, in the economic boom following WW2, you'd espect temperatures to rise, however, in a three decade period following the war, temperatures went DOWN.



And also noteworthy was that temperature was said to be determined by the sun (which can be monitored by the number of sun spots), which in turn determined the amount of CO2, as opposed to CO2 determining temperature.



Whether you believe their arguements is for you to decide, but I feel that after seeing the programme, you can no longer listen to anyone warning of man-made climate change without casting doubts over their credentials or the whole theory, which is nowadays presented as fact.
2007-03-09 15:10:20 UTC
Global warming is being caused overwhelmingly by vibrational change, part of a long-predicted cycle, that is affecting the earth's energy field at an ever-quickening rate.



We have seen nothing yet, as they say. The same vibrational change is affecting more and more people and waking them up from the amnesic state the system tries so hard to instill.
Taganan
2007-03-08 20:00:53 UTC
Since the end of the last Ice Age about 10,000 years ago the earth's climate was warmer than at present. About 3,000 yrs ago there was some cooling, then about 1,000 yrs ago the climate warmed enough that the Vikings could grow wheat in Greenland. Then came the Little Ice Age from which we are still warming and are yet cooler than in Viking times and cooler than for the majority of the last 7,000 yrs.



The GW scare started with a few alarmist scientists whose ideas were taken up by Leftist politicians. The politicians created a Cause, which would give them political power. They influence Science because they control money for grants, research funds and they disrespect and ridicule those who disagree. Those who disagree are not to be allowed to publish, therefore they lose their jobs. Those who do make their disagreement known are said to be in the pay of industry, incompetent, deluded and not "real" scientists.



Political power means control of people and the favorite way is to tax or make it profitable to control. Carbon credits are traded as a commodity for money. Taxes not only force people to do things, they provide the politicians with money to buy votes through government spending. The fact that prices go up, people lose jobs, standards of living go down makes no difference to the True Believers who follow the politicians. They know they are saving the world.



Since CO2 is seen as the main threat, the GW crowd pushes for zero emissions and taxes on it. Will they ban fire because it gives off CO2? When they realize that breathing emits CO2, will they tax breathing? Will people freeze to death because fire is illegal? What happens to those who cannot pay their breathing tax? Will they be stopped from breathing? If they believe in GW and that the only way to save the planet and the greater number of people is to let some freeze and stop others from breathing [kill them] then they will do it with a clear conscience.



There are always those in government who love taxes and spending. Stop them now!
gr_bateman
2007-03-09 02:41:51 UTC
I have believed for quite some time that it is the government that is making it all up. I have also said for ages that we only make up a tiny bit of global warming. If they want to stop it, they need 2 find a way to plug up volcanoes, plant more trees and make people and animals live forever. I like the way ordinary people are taxed for certain things but the government can jet of on a private plane and be driven in cars, (that they r the only passenger.) And are kicking immigrants out by text.
creamfeather
2007-03-08 16:25:00 UTC
I also watched this programme, it was very very interesting. A real eye opener.

Having heard the other side of the story Im now sure that global warming caused by CO2 emmisions doesnt exist.

As one of the scientists said, what is happening is a natural occurance, and the earth cooling and warming again has been happening for thousands of years.

They dont just think this, they have proved it.

One of the men who doesnt believe it is caused by CO2 was one of the founders of Greenpeace.

It is a theory that has become fact, without any real proof.

The global warming has become an industry in its own right, they receive money from the government, to prove the facts as they want us to see it.

Of course governments see it as another way to control us.

They can twist anything.
'er indoors
2007-03-09 02:54:21 UTC
I would not dismiss the idea, put forward in the programme, that there are greedy eyes in the developed world focused on the vast oil and gas deposits in the undeveloped areas and that, when the time is right, guess who will be offering aid for the "explorations" ?
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2014-10-25 19:49:57 UTC
Firstly no I don't think it is a swindle, but programmes like this undermine the other environmental issues, if we don't kill the atmosphere with CO2 will kill be creating deserts or fill it with garbage pollute rivers and seas so we have no drinkable water.
VWat22
2007-03-09 05:52:49 UTC
It is very true that we have experienced numerous changes in climate over the millennia, but we are probably responsible for producing a little more heat into the atmosphere than would have happened anyway through natural causes. It only matters to us because we have such short lives in the scheme of things that the effect of any rapid warming is going to affect our own generation quite soon. That is why everyone is so worried.
Cross B.Sc
2007-03-09 02:58:00 UTC
The program comfirmed what i have always thought about the current global warming theory and i was glad to hear Channel 4 were going to broadcast a program that addresses this issue.

I think the pricing of transport taxes has more than just the environmental impact of CO2 to take into consideration. Congestion and smog are other problems caused by more cars and industry and road maintainance, order and safety becomes problematic with increased traffic volume.

The Goverment are in the dark about the real impact of CO2 rather than using it as a tax scandal, but i do think they choose to bury their heads in the sand rather than address the issue fully as it is more convienient to do so.

Proper independant scientific research needs to be funded by the government that takes into account all of the factors involved with climate change not just CO2 atmospheric concentration.

Im sure it will become apparent in the future that the Sun and its associated climate systems have more to do with the Earths temperature and climate than the slight CO2 increases caused by man.
john
2007-03-08 16:24:04 UTC
Global warming is another tax levied by government. Government continually looks for new means of revenue generation. If public worry can be generated then the tax can be introduced. Carbon footprints look to be the next income generator.

In history the government had a 'window tax' and the public bricked up their windows. Since then tax has targeted items which we cannot live without.

In future government will tell us the air is running short of oxygen. No doubt government led panic will ensue and an 'oxygen tax will be introduced to reduce our oxygen footprint.
fred35
2007-03-08 16:01:25 UTC
Steady on. You can always find a different expert opinion and the subject is bound to get good viewing figures. The main reason that tax is always used to control spending activity is that appealing to the public for restraint would be a total waste of time, whatever it may be.
Robert C
2007-03-09 03:05:13 UTC
Ten years ago environmentalists predicted that there would be no ozone layer left by now. People seem to think that "global warming" is something that has just suddenly started to happen recently and has never happened before in the Earth's history, and that "we'll all be doomed" if we fail to carry out procedures being rammed down our throats by the Greens.

The earth is constantly changing and will continue to do so, with or without help from humans. If it didn't there would still be dinosaurs; South America and Africa would still be joined; we'd still be living in the Ice Age....need I go on?
MICHAEL B
2007-03-09 01:26:45 UTC
I am so pleased that people are starting to realise they are being mugged by this excuse to put up taxes. I would like you to read what the British government knows about the affects of co2, there is nothing that co2 from human sources has done to cause a problem. Our government gives a figure of 0.06% of total global output, this means animals and the seas are to blame, so I am now starting a campaign, if you here an animal fart KILL it!!, also, we need a campaign to get rid of ALL the seas, any ideas please!!.
PvteFrazer
2007-03-09 00:28:52 UTC
Yep. This isn't really a new theory, and in the case of global warming it's quite easy to fathom out as, if you look really closely, the governments aren't actually doing anything about global warming except raising taxes on anything that produces CO2. That won't stop global warming.
2007-03-08 15:30:53 UTC
I believe we are swindle with the latest tag lines from the government and the press. I can remember reading a long time ago we would all have skin cancer and be dying because the ozone layer was disappearing, all the ice would have melted by now and we would all be under water and we would all have or know someone with aids. Recently it's we will all get bird flue or dark forces are trying to destroy us. All these examples help the government control how you think and make you feel they can help and protect you, by raising money to combat the problem through taxes or diverting funds from some other project. To finish don't believe everything your told a lot of the expert don't know, they can hardly tell you what the weathers going to do next week never mind in 5 years!
Kim L
2007-03-09 08:06:35 UTC
No, as the programme mentioned, it is all about fuel security, or not being held to ransom by the middle east and fossil fuel workers in this country. Many people really believe in global warming and will continue to do so despite the facts. It is a bit like believing in fairies. The scientific society will continue to produce reports that validate the warming theories whilst huge grants are available for them to do so. What a scandal.
squeaky guinea pig
2007-03-09 05:18:28 UTC
How interesting that George Monbiot's Dispatches programme 'Greenwash' was screened a few days ago and repeated the same night.



A few points:

1. Just because the government is using an issue to tax people, doesn't mean that issue isn't real or relevant. Pollution, especially excessive CO2 output from transport and industry, is a reality, whether you believe it is the cause of global warming or not.



2. Yes, it is hypocritical of 'developed' nations to lecture the 'developing' ones on how they should deal with climate change. Better to help them make objective comparative studies for different solutions and let them make up their own minds.



3. One scene that stuck in my mind was the interview with the doctor in Kenya whose health centre had solar panels on the roof. The electricity produced was enough to run the lighting or the fridge, but not both. The obvious answer was to increase the number of solar panels, but the progarmme presented this as if it were an impossibly costly alternative to, say, exploiting coal and oil reserves in the same way as 'developed' countries.



At no time was there any attempt to compare, say, the cost of (on the one hand) sinking coal mines, building power stations, transporting the coal and setting up a grid system to distribute the electricity, and (on the other) fitting each building with solar panels to make it self-sufficient in electricity.



Much waxing lyrical on the accusation that anyone who denies climate change must be in the pay of multinationals like Shell, etc. I'm sure not everyone who denies climate change is, but the fact is anyone who does (whether they intend it or not) in helping companies like Shell, whose CEO said recently - on the BBC Radio 4 Today programme - that he thought global warming was a myth.



Much play also on the fact that 'climate change deniers' are now allegedly getting harassment, death threats, etc. and that there are some people who have a vested interest in keeping the issue of climate change alive, e.g. journalists. Two wrongs don't make a right, but wasn't it only recently that it was the people who believed in global warming who were getting all the hassle? When deeply-held beliefs or vested interests are at stake, people can get nasty. It's wrong, but again that shouldn't distract from the core issues.



The bit about climate journalists being afraid of losing their jobs made me laugh. Journalists write whatever the market wants to buy and read and if one issue falls from the limelight, they can easily find another to earn their bread. Some of these journalists write relevant and informative material and the fact that they earn their living doing this doesn't dectract from that.



In short, I found that the programme was too superficial. It didn't go into enough detail on the core issues and there were times when I felt it insulted my intelligence.



There was a time when I kept an open mind about global warming but the more I hear, the more I tend to side with people like Monbiot, because imho he talks common sense.
Bob N
2007-03-09 06:21:04 UTC
You got it in one. the government have jumped on this bandwagon to raise more taxes which they can then throw away as they please.there is serious money to be made out of this, frighten enough people and get rich quick. I do not understand how bloody thick most of the people of this country are, Why do they still believe what politicians tell them????? The greens jump on this bandwagon even though their evidence is flawed. At the end of the day it all comes down to MONEY and lots of it. Lord i loathe the two faced bast***s
2007-03-08 16:15:17 UTC
from when time began the earth has gone through massive climatic changes including ice ages. This is natural progression. no we are not helping global warming but the percentage WE affect it is minimal........this also coincides with many natural phenomena that naturally occur that we choose to ignore like the polarity of the earth changing every so many billions of years etc. because its not in OUR life time we choose to ignore or believe it doesnt happen.
2007-03-08 23:03:17 UTC
Yes i do, but then how else are they going to raise taxes and use this money to invade other countries which as a nation we'd accept ? I missed the programme but would have loved to have watch it.
?
2014-05-23 19:03:18 UTC
To finish don't believe everything your told a lot of the expert don't know, they can hardly tell you what the weathers going to do next week never mind in 5 years!
2007-03-09 02:09:59 UTC
Firstly no I don't think it is a swindle, but programmes like this undermine the other environmental issues, if we don't kill the atmosphere with CO2 will kill be creating deserts or fill it with garbage pollute rivers and seas so we have no drinkable water.



By acting more environmentally aware we save the whole planet not just the atmosphere. People we are running out of landfill space in the UK. We are killing this planet lots of ways not just through CO2 emissions!
canislupus
2007-03-08 19:12:31 UTC
NO! You believe what Channel 4 says over what the most pre-eminent scientists around the world say? Sigh...usual obsession with conspiracy theories.

Let's see: the sun, clouds, water vapour, sea and animals cause the majority of CO2 content? I don't argue with you there. The sun's effect is stronger because of the human-induced stronger greenhouse effect. Clouds and water vapour (basically the same thing) make the greenhouse effect worse, but huge quantities of water vapour come from aeroplanes (actually the water vapour from aeroplanes is worse than the CO2 emissions, because at that height it's got nowhere to go). Most of the effect of the sea is thanks to the (human-induced) CO2 coming from ships. Finally, yes, large livestock give off methane which make matters worse. However, the major issue comes from cattle-ranching, as (human-induced) large groups of livestock are bunched together in a field, usually formed by deforesting a pristine rainforest. Thus, you have larger amounts of methane AND CO2. So, quite frankly, all your issues can be answered. Finally, as to whether the "government is using this swindle to raise extra taxes under the guise of looking after our environment", well, obviously not, as a) it's not a swindle, and b) the British government is hardly making the bare minimum of action required to counter global warming. Please, look at ALL the facts before sticking to the conspiracy theory.
2007-03-09 01:42:37 UTC
you could not be more correct , now let see them give the money back , as said be before tax tax tax and all parties will do the same , if the money raised was going in to more research on new power sources , with out the lie of co2 , that would be understandable, and also the amount of answers you are receiving , most people are putting there heads in the sand
andranoll
2007-03-08 20:49:34 UTC
Yes yes we all have heard about the natural cycles of the earth. That's misleading because its not a question of warming and cooling, its a question of RATE. Co2 or "greenhouse gasses" or something else, its the rate of change that matters. If you look at a graph of human population growth and AVERAGE GLOBAL temperature you will see that they are suspiciously similar, each increasing exponentially at the mark of the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. Channel 4 must be FOX
realdolby
2007-03-08 17:52:20 UTC
Well of course the government has jumped on the band wagon with taxes.The world will correct itself it has been doing so for millions of years.Current day pollution is a mere grain of sand in comparison in assesing damage.However fumes are bad for the health and tomorows motor fuels could well be grown in the field next to your house Yes they will tax that too..
2007-03-08 14:54:56 UTC
There is a tax swindle in everything our government says, Labour is supposed to be the voice of the working man but all they are is tory left. I dont know how old you are but I remember when vat was invented, when vat was put on phone bills and electric and gas, I believe in a few years they will put a meter on everyones bed and tax you for having s*x. I still have somewhere the first electricity bill I ever recieved and no I am not that old, only in my fifties, and it was for ten shillings and sixpence thats 52 and 1/2 pence now, now it costs me on average through the year £10 pound per week. Its all a big con to pay themselves huge amounts of money while the lower or middle classes get poorer.
CT
2007-03-09 03:00:19 UTC
All right, so let's assume it's a big swindle... Does that mean we should scrap congestion charges and taxes on fuel, flying etc? No. To me the scientific reports could be written in ancient Greek, the fact is that pollution and burning hydrocarbons is bad for the planet and should be stopped. It's bad for your lungs to cross the road and eat petrol fumes, hello! Why people got on their high horse about the green movement is beyond me, I think they might want to preserve your planet for future generations. Maybe you can't afford to run your Range Rover any more, well too bad. See link.
2007-03-08 17:19:15 UTC
I didn't see most of this programme, but what I saw of it was extremely biased.

Two questions: If there are other factors other than human activity contributing to climate change, does that not mean that we should be more careful about producing greenhouse gases? Why is renewable energy more expensive? Couldn't redundant car factories mass produce solar panels and wind turbines?

I'm inclined to a conspiracy theory myself: the oil industry being responsible both for the war in Iraq and the Channel 4 programme.
2007-03-09 07:56:14 UTC
Yes I do. in fact I think that greedy Gordon would tax sunshine and fresh air if he thought he could steel more money from the people of the UK.
safcian
2007-03-09 02:37:43 UTC
maybe they are, but maybe, just maybe they are actually trying to force an issue that really needs to be dealt with.

one of the first things you learn at school is about plants and the fact that they 'give out' oxygen overnight, so nature, as ever has its own way of dealing with things yet we destroy plant life constantly (rain forests/farming/housing)

with so much plant life gone and going at an alarming rate, ANY cause of CO2 needs addressing.
2007-03-08 15:39:12 UTC
Definitely. I never believed in global warming in the first place anyway. I believe the world has been changing normally since the day it started to exist and it's gone through ice age, etc.

I always thought these changes were just normal.
me
2007-03-10 14:40:44 UTC
Don't let this programme relieve you of your concerns, it raised some interesting points but for a balanced view go here:

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2326210.ece
marvelous_mad_madam_mim
2007-03-09 00:32:49 UTC
Well yes because it is what everyone is expecting them to do and they cant be seen to be doing nothing. I dont condone their actions but I do understand them.

Did you notice that absolutely nothing was mentioned about the hole in the ozone layer or carbon levels in the atmosphere in the program?

I still firmly believe that the air is more polluted and that we are responsible for that regardless of what is making the weather change and will carry on as I am to reduce our carbon footprint.
2007-03-08 18:17:38 UTC
i have been waiting for a program like this for age's, and yes i believe its true, i have said all along that the planet has went through many changes in its time, man made C02 does not even reach 4% of the CO2 that this planet releases, so global warming is a joke, the money they make from it, every thing they said in that program is true and makes so much sense
cassidy
2007-03-09 01:28:31 UTC
I wouldnt be at all surprised, talk about the days of Robin Hood, they are far superior today with their taxes on the poor man.
JOHNNIE B
2007-03-08 16:29:51 UTC
Don't be too hard on the young as that is what their teachers have been pushing . U see them on here that they need to make a report on global warming. If the truth be known they have brain washed the young.
life_1s_an_adventure
2007-03-08 17:36:34 UTC
Hmm, you're missing the point. It's not the majority source that's important, it's whether or not we push things past too far, especially if we push the average temperature past a "tipping point". Focusing on the major source of CO2 makes me think of this...



If you drive 1000 miles to the Grand Canyon, then stand on the edge, is it my fault if you die after I push you over? After all, 99.999% of your going over the edge was due to YOUR contribution. Of course, it WOULD be my fault. You see, it's a matter of *responsibility* (that's like a four-letter word to some people) and how my actions affect the results, not just whether or not my contribution was small.



Right now, our atmosphere's "radiation budget" is highly sensitive to changes in CO2 content. If we release just 1% of what nature releases, but the Earth has been in balance, then have we upset the balance.



- p.s. - I know about this stuff. I've personally run photochemical-radiative transfer models simulating the atmosphere. Until you doubt this stuff, run one yourself. That's why you can only find VERY few scientists who declaim global warming processes. And those VERY FEW people are inevitably funded by Big Oil. Even if you don't have my experience, you can review basic diagrams of CO2 and atmospheric absorption spectra and see quite clearly that CO2 levels in our atmosphere are threatening to reach a "bifurcation" point with regards to climate.
stef555stef
2007-03-08 15:00:40 UTC
Without me sounding like a conspiracy theory nutter, how do you know it's just another lie put out by government agencies? You see in the next twenty years there will be a massive boom in the Chinese and Asian economies. There will be a lot of money to be made from it for governments alike, very cheap consumer goods will cause a spending spree in Europe the like of which we have never seen. The taxes generated will make our governments an awful lot of revenue. But this will cost us in terrifying pollution; all the manufacturing will be powered by 'dirty' fuel. I saw a photo of Beijing on the tv: at seven in the morning you couldn't see six feet in front of you from the smog (smog = Smoke + fog). Has this new theory been put out to make all the anticipated pollution easier to swallow (sic)? Governments have told us lies for centuries; it's their job. I can't help thinking all of this is a double whammy. I wonder if anyone else out there agrees with me? P.S. that was a metaphorical question.
Roxy.
2007-03-09 05:10:40 UTC
I sure do, I think its a natural thing that's happening but the government sees it as a money making opportunity.
Chianti Man
2007-03-09 02:51:27 UTC
Off Course, I don't understand why it has taken this programme to open peoples eyes to the fact that there is nothing man can do to stop something that is natural... We have to adapt, but Mr Blair and his cronies will just keep taxing us. Its time to leaver this country.
2007-03-08 15:31:12 UTC
An original article, The Great Green Global Warming Con-Trick

and articles suggesting that politicians are using Global warming to increase their power over us and to raise taxes, can be read in the online magazine, The Nottinghamshire Times.

http://www.nottinghamshiretimes.co.uk



It argues that global warming has nothing whatsoever to do with human activity, but solar irradtion and gives links to scientific groups and their reports.



If Gordon Brown really believed in global warming, why has he insisted that pensions are paid into bank accounts instead of post offices, causing millions pensioners to make journeys by bus or car every week to collect them.



They used to walk.
JoJo
2007-03-09 02:56:13 UTC
Yes without a doubt. They have to raise the money for the war from somewhere. How better than to make it all our fault.?
wise old owl
2007-03-09 01:35:23 UTC
There have been changes in the climate for millenia. I always told my children not to worry about climate change, because the earth has been through many climate changes throughout millenia. The government want us to think that we are heading for disaster because they want to put up taxes yet again and have no more excuses to use.

I have no worries about the earth, it will take care of itself without our arrogant medling! If we think we are changing the climate then we are arrogant indeed!!
robski
2007-03-09 08:56:21 UTC
I don't believe any government, they are all lining their own pockets with good tax payers money!
frank S
2007-03-08 15:54:24 UTC
global warming is happening, it is just part of the cycle. In a decade or two it will start to cool again as it has always done.



I for one will just carry on as usual and leave all the paranoia to those who choose to believe the media generated hype.
funnelweb
2007-03-08 17:30:10 UTC
You seem to put a lot of faith in one tv program, the evidence to support global warming is overwhelming. You may as well say we haven't been cutting the rain-forests down. Linking tax to whether or not global warming is taking place is not helpful and brings out the greedy b@$t@rds who will shut their eyes to the damage men have done to and are still doing to our planet, so that they can do as they please. They are overlooking something, attitudes don't change facts. The ice sheets are melting at an unparalleled rate. There have been ice ages, and warm periods, however the rate of temperature change has never been so fast. Global warming aggravated by man burning fossil fuels is acknowledged to be a fact by most reputable scientists. The governments of the world have suppressed evidence of this, rather than promoting it, they have watered down environmental reports warning of the extent of rising sea level and why? So that they can pursue the course of "business as usual"

We don't need bvll$h*t.
little weed
2007-03-08 15:01:10 UTC
I always knew this Global Warming stuff was a big con to get more taxes out of us and seeing the eye-opener of a programme has just confirmed my beliefs. Tony Blair and his cronies should be strapped in front of that prog, and made to scrap all car and air taxes etc.and ban any mention of GW. This prog should be repeated ,this time on a main stream channel so that more and more citizens of the UK can see how we are being brainwashed by this lying gang we call a Government. Seems George Bush was right all along.
Gilly
2007-03-08 22:47:21 UTC
probably so but i believe that we can all do our bit my contribution is to get a bigger car a gas guzzler would be good lets heat up the atmosphere British winters are way to cold lol!!.
?
2007-03-08 14:58:36 UTC
I too have been watching this programme and am still listening whilst I write my answer.



You haven't actually told the people out there what is causing the Global Warming, and who actually started the ball rolling by stating that the global warming was man made, which it is not. The sun spots and solar winds are responsible for the climate to change, which have done since time began. If fact in Medieval times the world overall was warmer than it is now for approximately 3000 years. About 400 years ago the earth was in a little ice age. Scientists who are not afraid to speak out from Countries all around the world have shown graphs which have proven that the temperatures of the world and the sunspots follow the same lines.



The reasons that the scientists who do say Global Warming is caused by humans, and carbon emmissions etc, are in fact a fiscal matter, since if they did not say that very fact, then when they wanted to do research for whatever purpose with regard to Climate and Weather, they would not get the funding for their research from their governments.



This government in power now are not the ones responsible for this conspiracy in the first place. In fact it was said that it was Margaret Thatcher in this country who decided that she didn't like coal and oil for energy in this country and that she wanted Nuclear power. So that she got her own way, she laid money on the table to certain scientists in order to come up with a good argument against those fuels, so that she got nuclear power.



Also previously from the time when environmental left wing groups that started in, and around the 60's ,and onwards they wanted anti capitalism, and wanted to get rid of cars, manufacturing, big business, and wanted to return society back to a more fundemental way of life, so they spread propaganda about how humans were harming the planet with cO2.



In fact, the polar ice caps, as shown from a speeded up film taken from outerspace, shows that they melt quite often and then freeze again larger every so often.Also the bits of ice that break off, that is normal.



All the scientists shown in this programme tonight were eminent Professors from many, many Countries around the world who will not lie.



It is all a lie about humans harming the planet and causing the global warming.



If the Government do raise taxes now for the purpose of saving the planet because of global warming, I think they will be biting off more than they can chew from the people.

Especially if the Conservatives get in again, as they will have to give an answer as to why one of theirs in emminent power told lies to the Country, and as to why they are making thousands of people live in fear.
Excocet
2007-03-08 14:54:22 UTC
Well I believe that government have been misled by scientists who in turn are looking for investment in their research, as was stated if you produce a report that is not dramatic in its conclusions you cannot get any more money for further research. A lot of this did stem from the Thatcher era where Mrs Thatcher the champion of Nuclear power and determined to destroy the miners offered money for scientific research into the global warming theory. Thus achieving both her objectives.

People seem to forget that it is only a theory..not proven and not provable. I have never been convinced about the climate change human contribution argument at all, the changes in the magnetic fields and sun spots sounds and has proven to be more credible.

I am frankly pissed off at being conned by government, environmentalists,anti-development hippies,trendy jump on the bandwagon celebs with their hybrid cars and the like.....
njaymc2003
2007-03-09 10:05:00 UTC
yeah i agree so much for global warming
jw
2007-03-09 05:07:14 UTC
we are all to blame in 1 way or another (i wonder did the people in the TV prog have have a hidden reason for saying what the said)
Doethineb
2007-03-09 02:45:02 UTC
Yes. And not just the Government, but the UN -- to justify its continued existence.
2007-03-09 00:05:25 UTC
Yep...its just another tax. Never did believe in this global warning bullpoo anyway.
2007-03-08 14:43:58 UTC
Yes I have just watched this shocking programme also and I am amazed but not surprised that we have all been led down the garden path..not only for the benefit of raising taxation but to keep the poor poorer in the third worlds by dictating that they cannot have electricity...or develop industry. Anyone who disagrees is silenced and the media are gagged.

Yet another successfully propaganda mission by modern governments. I have to feel sorry for all those who have misguidedly devoted so much time and effort to this issue when in fact they have been enabling the west to simply dominate the rest of the world.

It is a disgrace!
Panama Jack
2007-03-09 03:10:31 UTC
Politicians=liars and conmen.
Alex
2007-03-09 01:38:27 UTC
So, you think that millions of cars throughout the world, and industry belching smoke, not to mention aircraft, has no effect at all on the climate.
2007-03-08 15:59:42 UTC
take a brief look back through history, whether u use a search engine online or simply remember the things u were taught in history at school and i am talking here of all countries all decades . there is ONE FACT that is blatantly obvious,so obvious,in fact,that u cant see it at first and it exists today as it has done through the centuries. it is a fact that can be summed up in one sentence, read this sentence,then read it again. i promise you you will never forget it............





All Governments are liars, thieves and murderers.



Mother Nature is the cause of global warming, its her earth, its her air, its her fire and its her water. we are only borrowing it and no amount of extra tax will stop her if she has decided our time is up.
2007-03-08 15:42:40 UTC
a truth that's told with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent
krishnokoli
2007-03-09 01:11:42 UTC
"and when you trust your television

what you get is what you got

cause when they own the information, oh

they can bend it all they want "



i just wish u ppl would understand that what affects the world affects u. if u think u r not going to be affected by global warming..all i can do is pray for u.
dabaker
2007-03-08 16:10:09 UTC
The main culprits of co2 are cow flatulance.so get rid of the cows I say and should help a bit.
PETER G
2007-03-08 22:33:32 UTC
this government is using the theory of global warming to tax us silly.and to scare,
Cliff E
2007-03-08 15:58:26 UTC
Im sorry but i dont give a Stuff , its haperning and recycling a couple of bottles and papers and maybe switching the lights off and heating down aint going to stop it , and whats more if i win the lottery this week im buying a great big gas guzzling HUMMER !
robborocks14
2007-03-09 07:03:56 UTC
i agree wit the others i think dey r
Purple 8
2007-03-08 14:51:46 UTC
I have always doubted that man could effect nature to the extent they would have us believe! This government doesn't miss a trick in taking our hardearned cash from us. I'm also certain that the money taken does not go towards improving our environment!
tucksie
2007-03-08 14:23:17 UTC
It's like the human rights law and immigration welfare in the UK, a lot of people are making a lot of cash out of it and so they perpetuate the myth. It's also another way Brown can get his hand in my back pocket. It ranks alongside the recycling con.
Avondrow
2007-03-08 15:42:51 UTC
I think the program missed the point. Global warming is happening. The evidence is overwhelming and obvious. The extent to which human activities triggered the warming is moot. But our activities are contributing to the escalation of the effect, and the results can be devastating. So the question of what we can do reduce or negate global warming is still valid and vital, and I think the program was irresponsible as it will give comfort and succour to those who want to carry on regardless.
2007-03-08 15:17:47 UTC
So who will be proved right? Personally see my earlier question (no not the one about Robbie Williams you fool) man made global warming, is the greatest con trick of all time.Still you will always get the sheep that follow the pack.We know we are right.We can show the green fools the facts,but they are blind to it. MAN MADE C02 HAS NO EFFECT ON THE CLIMATE..............the sun has. Maybe the greens should go their, to sprout their mumbo jumbo..Guess which of the farties are giving all the thumbs down.Free speech just so long as you agree with them.
Sandy H
2007-03-08 14:44:17 UTC
Well d'uh! No change there then! The trouble is, who would dare to be seen to argue with a so-called 'environmental' tax.
Scott
2007-03-08 14:27:54 UTC
hi pal. check out my last question posted on my economic views if you care. but.. government will always use 'all means necassary to raise taxes on anything' check back to the bible! (or yre wage slip) yes the planet i believe is capable of a global shut down.. but not by itself.. 1000 years ago we (the planet) had more trees producing 02..than flat arible land, concrete, tarmac & road transport network we have now. do the math or research & you will see wot i mean. if not contact me direct i am based within the recycling sector & need to educate where i can. regards scott..
Geff B
2007-03-09 01:53:42 UTC
Well done.

Good question.

It has certainly turned me around.
mickjack
2007-03-08 14:29:45 UTC
what a good programme i have thought for years that we were being conned, now Gordon Brown should stop his

recently imposed airport tax. its just a government ploy

to raise money and to take our minds off the real problems

they are creating.
2007-03-09 04:12:20 UTC
it wouldnt suprise me at all.
Icarus
2007-03-09 00:09:40 UTC
erm if you honestly think that cars and industry are not contributing to CO2 levels then no, i'm sure everything is just peachy!
whispernikki
2007-03-08 14:43:34 UTC
i have always believed there is no such thing as global warming,! its is natures earth and the way life around us works .

i think the world governments are just trying to make jobs and create a belief that does not exist !

but yet there are still countries out there that are still suffering .because the big countries don`t want them to dominate the world!! what would happen if africa became the richest country in the world?



i think more war springs to mind!
the little ninja
2007-03-08 14:53:00 UTC
No the government are not using it to raise taxes. This TV programme only goes to show that people are not sure what is going to happen. Don't forget it is only a TV programme and as such is created with sensationalising the topic covered in order to get us to watch it. The debate continues!!!!!
2007-03-08 14:43:26 UTC
Bonkers.
2007-03-08 14:41:48 UTC
yes, i have always thought that the climate is just going through its normal cycle of change.
2007-03-08 14:37:38 UTC
Yeeeeeeeessss.Just been watching the programme and we are being misled by this government so they can rip us off.
2007-03-08 15:55:50 UTC
WELL THEY ARE WANTING OUR MONEY,THEN SPEND BILLIONS ON TRIDENT,WHICH IS AMERICAN,BUT WE ARE CHANGING THE ENVIROMENT.
mr.mishit
2007-03-08 14:42:46 UTC
blimey, how gullible are we taking the 'facts' from an 'entertainment' programme as being the truth!

On a personal level I believe it is a bit of both, the Government exaggerates what is happening, but certainly since the start of the Industrial Revolution there has been an increase in pollution.

Whatever the truth is, we still need to stop taking natural resources for granted as they can only be a finite supply.
brainyandy
2007-03-08 15:07:57 UTC
This is undoubtedly the case. Congestion charge my ar**!
Good Egg
2007-03-08 14:16:45 UTC
yes i do
2007-03-08 15:56:07 UTC
EH !
Bob
2007-03-08 14:27:18 UTC
There are a relatively few scientists who believe this. It taps into the feelings of those who believe that the government is conspiring against people.



But, in order to believe it you also have to believe that the vast majority of climatologists in the world (see cite at end) are wrong, wilfully neglect obvious natural causes, are faking science for money, or are engaged in a vast conspiracy.



These people don't believe that:



"The science of global warming is clear. We know enough to act now. We must act now."



James Rogers, CEO of Charlotte-based Duke Energy.



"The overwhelming majority of atmospheric scientists around the world and our own National Academy of Sciences are in essential agreement on the facts of global warming and the significant contribution of human activity to that trend."



Russell E. Train, Republican, former environmental official under Presidents Nixon and Ford



"Our nation has both an obligation and self-interest in facing head-on the serious environmental, economic and national security threat posed by global warming."



John McCain, Republican, Senator, Arizona



"These technologies will help us become better stewards of the environment - and they will help us to confront the serious challenge of global climate change."



President George Bush



Neither do I. I believe in science, not conspiracy theories. I believe we went to the moon, I don't believe a flying saucer crashed at Roswell, and I believe global warming is caused by us.



"vast majority of climatologists"



http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686
missdjflex1
2007-03-09 09:43:21 UTC
SO
2007-03-08 14:57:06 UTC
Bloody hell I'm glad you weren't around in WW11 otherwise some of you would have believed the Nazi propaganda, even though you were on our side.



Theres lies, damned lies and then there are statistics.


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